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市售105款名牌电源的详细测试和对比

市售105款名牌电源的详细测试和对比

现在大家机箱内的三高部件(高档次,高功耗,高价格)越来越多,特别是显卡和CPU的功耗不断持续增加,很多朋友都在寻找合适的大功率电源,以保证爱机不但既“吃饱”也“吃好”。

一家法国网站适时 测试了市面105款从主流到高端的不同厂家的电源产品,相信对这里的朋友会有很大的帮助。

http://www.matbe.com/articles/li ... -105-alimentations/

以下部分的章节为了方便大家理解直接采用网上的翻译工具翻译为英文,如果有错不关我事啊



先来一张代工厂列表,大家应该很感兴趣的



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测试配置:

Intel Pentium 4.560 ES LGA775 3.6 GHz
Asus P5ND2-SLI
2 graphics boards Gigabyte 6800 WP in SLI
2 X 512 Mo of DDR2-667 Corsair
Hard disk Seagate Barracuda SATA V 120 Go
Squanderer Thermalright XP-120
Ventilator Delta FFB1212EHE 120x120x38 millimetres 3500 rpm (3 amps)


测试安排

(功率测试使用下图所示的功率计):



not overclockée in order to make assemble in temperature the food. That the more one food heats, the more its output should indeed be known tends to worsen. After this rise in temperature, 27 readings are taken. At the time of these statements, 4 values are measured: the value of the +12 volts, the +5 volts, the +3.3 volts thanks to voltmeters and the overall consumption of the configuration, it thanks to the wattmeter. By food, we thus add up 81 measured values, 84 with measurements of the sound harmful effects.

These 27 statements correspond to the values measured in idle, with launched CPUBurn and with CPUBurn launched into simultaneous with a benchmark 3D makes house strongly charging the graphics boards. These 3 types of tests are repeated with various values of Vcore: 9 Vcore different going from 1.3875 to 1.575 volts. That will enable us to see the evolution of the tensions according to the load but also the evolution of consumption.

We also carried out a complete test of the sound harmful effects. With this intention we used a sonometer placed at 20 centimetres of the food but on the side of the block in order to avoid the disturbances due to the flow of air. Three measurements were taken: one in idle, another after one hour of load (CPU and two GPU) with a vcore of 1.3875 volts and finally the last after one hour of load also but with a vcore of 1.5 volts. This will enable us to see the increase in sound harmful effects resulting from the rise in temperature of the components of the food.


2 AMD  平台 功耗估算:





In this first case of figure, we used a mother chart equipped with the famous chipset nForce consuming 590i SLI more than the majority of the others chipsets. We assembled there GeForce 7900 GTX, two Raptor 74 Go, 2x1024 Mo of memory and initially varied the processors。


3 Intel 平台功耗估算:






We retained the mother chart Asus P5W DH containing 975X, compatible Crossfire. The remainder of the components does not vary compared to platform AMD if it is not the ventirad which is an Intel Box here. First series of test: variation of the processor with GeForce 8800 GTX.


400W 电源够用吗? 很多朋友都想问的问题

Our configuration of test with two GPU in SLI and a CPU with the TDP of 115 Watts who even overclockée and by stressing to 100% the two GPU and the CPU did not make bend many blocks of 400 Watts…



To insert the nail, let us take our configuration of test containing a SLI of 6800 WP (consumption higher than a SLI of 7800 WP) and of a processor with the high TDP of 115 Watts, namely Pentium 4.560. The latter can consume with most extremely of the tests up to 430, 440 Watts real (of 500 with more than 600 Watts to the catch according to the output of the food) when the processor strongly is overclocké and used to the 100% just like two GPU, which is a case little running. Our meeting of torture indeed represents an extreme case especially at the time of the last stages of the protocol of test. In spite of that, many blocks of 400 Watts quality held the shock while some was put logically in protection during the last tests. Illustration with the results of Fortron Zen 400 Watts accompanied by a hard disk 7200 rpm, a ventilator given for 3 amps in 12 volts and by 2x512 Mo of DDR2:

It is only during the last test that the food was put in protection whereas consumption with the catch indicated 490 Watts, that is to say a little less than 400 Watts on the basis of output of 80% or 416 Watts on the basis of output of 85%.

In short, nowadays, a food of 400-450 Watts is enough amply for the very great majority to the needs for the consumers and we could even say that a block of 350 Watts will be also sufficient. But the future of the consumption of the components being dubious, better is worth to choose a block of 400 Watts if one wishes to give oneself a minimum of safety. Ideally if you have the means of them, choose 500 Watts history to see coming, even of 600 Watts if you are a keen player intending to use configurations multi-GPU. The food beyond 600 Watts is clearly useless for 99.9% of the consumers. The rare people that that will concern are the owners of Quad-SLI (possibly) or for example those which have many hard disks which ask for a peak of power raised starting.

But that all this does not make you forget to remain vigilant compared to the food which you will buy. More than ever, we advise you to choose a block of mark and not of a secondary mark or noname for which it is not certain that Watts announced on packing are really found in the food. Also take care to choose a food proposing of the sufficient intensities on the +12 volts and not a block inflating its power supported by proposing “large” rails +5 and 3.3 volts.

For the remainder, all will be a business of budget. According to the money that you will want to devote to your future food, you will make such or such choice. And it is precisely there that our test is registered: you to help to choose your future food by taking note of what it is done of better but also blocks to be avoided…



为了使大家对电源测试有更深入的了解,在这里插入一篇文章,表达了一网站对电源测试的一些看法,不知道大家认为如何?

为什么 99% 的电源测试是错误的


Introduction
With computers (and users) asking for better power supplies, nothing more natural than reviewing websites publishing power supply reviews. But contrary to other hardware parts like CPUs, motherboards and video cards, one must have deep electronics knowledge in order to test a power supply. Since most reviewers are simply users with a above-the-average knowledge in computers – but not in electronics – almost all PSU reviews posted on the web are completely wrong and they do more harm than good, as some websites recommend products that are really flawed. In this article we will explain in details why 99% of power supply reviews posted on the web are wrong and we hope that reviewers learn more about the subject by reading this article and also that users learn how to identify a bad review.

The methodology most used to review power supplies is just adding a multimeter on the power supply outputs and measuring if there are any fluctuations on the voltages found there. Some websites even compare the voltages found with voltage levels found on competing products. The problem is, this procedure is wrong and tells us nothing about the power supply.

The most common problem with power supplies is their incapability of delivering their labeled current (and thus power). Measuring the output voltages will tell us nothing about this.

Reviewers that do reviews like this probably think that at least they can see if there is any fluctuation on the power supply outputs, however in reality they simply won’t be able to measure this.

The idea of measuring a power supply with a multimeter comes from linear power supplies, where the power supply has a separated voltage regulator circuit (normally done by an integrated circuit or by a zener diode, sometimes with the aid of a power transistor). In this kind of power supply it makes sense to use the multimeter to check whether the regulator circuit is working fine or not. Even in this case, simply attaching the multimeter won’t let you know if the power supply is being able to provide its labeled current/power. You will need to add a load to the power supply outputs.

On linear power supplies, as they are an open-loop system (more about this in a moment), the output voltage can increase or decrease accordingly to the applied load – so the idea of attaching a multimeter in parallel with the load to check if there is any voltage fluctuation depending on the load makes sense.

Power supplies used on the PC use switching-mode technology, which works in a very different way. They are closed-loop systems, meaning that the power supply measures its output voltages and corrects them if there is any fluctuation. This is done by the PWM circuit, which is in charge of switching the primary transistors. In other words, if there is any fluctuation on the output voltages, the PWM circuit will know it right away, increasing or decreasing the duty cycle of the signal applied to the switching transistors in order to correct this. Since the frequency of the signal applied to the transistors are in the range of KHz, it would take only a few microseconds to the power supply to correct any fluctuation found on its outputs. And no multimeter would be capable of measuring the power supply fluctuation, if any.

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Also, since the power supply found on the PC have five different outputs (+12 V, +5 V, + 5 VSB, +3.3 V and –12 V) you would need to connect five multimeters to the power supply at the same time, and publications using this methodology usually use only one, measuring the outputs in different moments in time, making the results worthless, since they were taken in different moments, with different conditions (load, temperature, etc). Even if you connected five multimeters, you would need to read them at the same time. We don’t know any human being able to read five instruments at the same time and write down the values at the same time. Even if you are really fast, you will take some seconds to make this measurement. As we already mentioned, things inside the PC power supply happens in microseconds, so seconds make a huge difference.

One way to use the above methodology correctly is by using a device to grab the value of all five outputs at the same time, like a digital data collector. The problem is that we would measure the voltages, which, once again, mean nothing. One way to make a correct power supply test using this approach is by measuring the current (and not the voltage) of the five outputs at the same time using a data collector, if you add a correct load to the power supply. In fact, this methodology is the one suggested by one engineer at Intel and can work out if you have the right equipment. We will describe this idea on the next page.

Another problem regarding the use of regular multimeters is precision. We cannot guarantee the precision of low-cost multimeters. If you add five multimeters, we cannot guarantee if the multimeters are calibrated among them, showing the exact same results when measuring the same thing.


Load Testing
The second major problem with almost all PSU reviews around is the use of an inadequate load.

Some websites will use a regular PC on their PSU review. The problem is that high-end power supplies nowadays can deliver at least 600 W and a regular PC is not able to pull all this power. Even if you use a very high-end PC with two CPUs, several hard disk drives and even four video cards, you won’t be able to say how much power you are pulling at a given moment and you also won’t be able to say up to how much power you were able to pull from the power supply, since you are not using any measurement device.

A methodology some publications use is setting up a passive load, by connecting the power supply to a series of wire resistors. With this approach you can say how much current and thus power the power supply is delivering by applying ohm’s law (I = V / R or P = V^2 / R), as the voltage and resistance are known. Even though this is an interesting idea, there are some problems with this approach as well. First, you will need to build a resistor net for each output to be used at the same time (we’ve seen some publications adding a resistor net to only one of the power supply’s output or to all outputs but at different moments, not at the same time). Second, you can see some smoke coming from the resistors, as they will heat a lot and they can burn (some publications will add a fan over the resistors). Third, this is a passive load test and computers are dynamic systems, meaning that they can pull a lot of power at one moment and then reduce the power consumption some seconds later and then increase the power consumption again after some more seconds. With a passive load like this you also won’t be able to measure automatically several important features like efficiency and protections.

One word about efficiency. Efficiency is the relation between how much DC power the power supply is being able to deliver and how much AC power it is pulling from the power grid to deliver it. With the above methodology this can be calculated if you add an AC power meter to the power supply AC input. As you will have the amount of DC power the power supply is delivering and the amount of AC power the power supply is pulling from the power grid, efficiency will be given by the formula DC power / AC power.

The best way to review power supplies is using an active load tester, like Chroma 8000. This machine will accurately measure the maximum current and power a power supply is capable of delivering and is also able to measure several other parameters and features, like all power supply protections. The only problem with this tool is that it costs almost USD 50,000.

There are some load testers on the market that internally have just a series of wire resistors, so the commentaries about resistor load are also valid for such machines.

We mentioned the methodology suggested by one engineer from Intel, Andrew Watts. His approach is to add a current sensor to each power supply output and connecting them to a digital oscilloscope and to a data collector, then connecting the data collector to a PC running monitoring software. This is a very interesting approach, however the problem with this methodology is that you still need a PC to generate the system load. If you want to take a better look on this methodology – which can be cheaper than buying a Chroma machine –, click here to download a PDF presentation about it. We are also showing below some pictures of the board created by Andrew to connect the current sensors between the power supply and the PC (the BNC connectors are used to connect the digital oscilloscope) and also some pictures of the system assembled and running.

Notice that the oscilloscope and the computer connected to the data collector is measuring the current consumed by the PC (and thus power, thru the formula P = V x I), not the power supply voltages.



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Figure 1: Board with current sensors.


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Figure 2: Board connected between the power supply and the PC used as load.


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Figure 3: Data collector, digital multimeter and digital oscilloscope.


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Figure 4: Software running (it is measuring the power consumption).




As you can see on Figure 4, the software can tell the power consumption for each output, the total power consumption and also the power supply efficiency.

Conclusions
We have a motto here on Hardware Secrets: if we can’t do something correctly, we prefer not doing it at all. Between publishing a lousy review and not publishing it at all, we prefer not publishing it. That is why we do not “review” power supplies: what we do here is to disassemble power supplies and make an in-depth analysis of the components and project used, as you can see visiting our Power Section. We are saving money to buy a Chroma machine, and we hope to buy one soon. As soon as we buy one, we will start publishing “real” reviews, together with the in-depth analysis we already do.

We hope you have learned to detect a good power supply review, and you will be amazed in noting that almost all reviewing websites are using wrong methodologies that really tell us nothing about the power supply real power capabilities. Even worse, some websites are recommending bad power supplies based on flawed methodologies.

If you are a reviewer, don’t get us wrong. Our purpose here is to educate both users and reviewers, so you now have a better knowledge on power supplies and have learned what you should not do. One suggestion? Instead of calling your articles as “reviews” call them something else, like “First Impressions”, “First Look”, etc, if you are not using a real load tester.

We should point out that there are some websites doing a terrific job on power supply reviews. SPCR (SilentPCReview), for example, goes one step further, adding a variable AC power supply, which allows them to simulate different power grid configurations – not only to check if the power supply can really operate under the range stated by the manufacturer (e.g. 90 V – 240 V) but it also simulate spikes and noise on the power grid. They also use a load tester (even though is a simpler model compared to Chroma 8000).

Other websites worth mentioning are Xbitlabs, which created their own active load for testing PSUs, Planet3Dnow, a German website that owns a Chroma 6330 machine and also used a Chroma 8800 in some reviews, and JonnyGuru, that also uses a load tester (a Sunmoon SM-8800). There are more websites around using a load tester, these are the ones I am most familiar with.

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离谱啊,对面的16MB DSL 怎么不能拉过来!!

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12V 输出 分析 :

待机状态下的 12V 波动 (单位为 V)


测试开始和结束时候的 12V 输出差别 (单位为 V)




不同状态下的功耗测试:


核心电压 1.3875V  闲置状态的功耗

核心电压 1.475V  闲置状态的功耗

核心电压 1.575V  闲置状态的功耗

核心电压 1.3875V  满载状态的功耗

核心电压 1.475V 满载状态的功耗

核心电压 1.575V 满载状态的功耗

核心电压 1.3875V + 2 GPU 满载状态的功耗

核心电压 1.475V + 2 GPU 满载状态的功耗

核心电压 1.575V + 2 GPU 满载状态的功耗




噪声测试:


核心电压 1.3875V  闲置状态:

核心电压 1.3875V  非超频状态:


核心电压 1.575V + 2 GPU 超频状态:



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离谱啊,对面的16MB DSL 怎么不能拉过来!!

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测试结论:

最佳非模块化电源:

Akasa Power80+ 500 watts
Antec Trio 650 watts
Seasonic S12 500 watts
Seasonic S12 600 watts
Seasonic S12 Energy+ 650 watts
Silverstone ST40EF 400 watts
Silverstone ST50EF Plus 500 watts



最佳模块化电源:


Antec Neo HE 550 watts
Corsair HX-620 620 watts
Enermax Infinity 720 watts
Nexus NX-8040 400 watts
Seasonic M12 500 watts




最佳静音(无风扇)电源:

Fortron Zen 400 Watts




最佳大功率电源:

Cooler Master Real Power Pro 850 Watts
Silverstone Strider ST75F 750 Watts




最佳性价比电源:


Antec Earthwatts 500 Watts
Antec Neo HE 430 Watts
Be Calm Straight Power 400 Watts
Fortron Green 400 Watts, starting
Fortron Blue Storm II 500 Watts




尽量避免购买的电源:

Aikuo BF430 (LEGP) (12cm)
Aikuo GF560 (GP) (14cm)
LC Power LC6550G V2.0
LC Power LC6550GP V2.0
Tacens Radix 410 Watts SMART
Levicom Visible Power XP 450 W


在中国大陆可以买到的牌子里面,你的选择是....... ??

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你想占多少位啊?

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105款名牌电源w00t) w00t)

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我也来抢个位置

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不就是老边贴出的这个链接吗??
http://we.pcinlife.com/thread-760396-1-1.html
史上最强之高端电源测评 (总计105款)
http://www.matbe.com/articles/li ... -105-alimentations/

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原帖由 qiumd 于 2007-5-8 23:35 发表
不就是老边贴出的这个链接吗??
http://we.pcinlife.com/thread-760396-1-1.html
史上最强之高端电源测评 (总计105款)
http://www.matbe.com/articles/li ... -105-alimentations/
是的,没想到被抢先了,拖了很久才有时间搞

离谱啊,对面的16MB DSL 怎么不能拉过来!!

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总结来说,就国内能买到的品牌,就是买Antec,Seasonic海韵,Fortron全汉,Silverstone银欣的东西

没想到康舒没排进去啊

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国内 有3C 这个在所以 很多好的品牌不会进来的

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这100多个电源搬来搬去也快累死了哈

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尽量避免的那个LC的两个电源是andyson做的还是huntkey做的啊

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看来绿宝还可以啊~

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测试项目比较多,抄收了。慢慢研究

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法语的看不太懂

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海韵我喜欢

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